"ttyymmnn" (ttyymmnn)
12/01/2018 at 14:31 • Filed to: None
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"ttyymmnn" (ttyymmnn)
12/01/2018 at 14:31 • Filed to: None | 0
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My sons are playing shit-tons of Fortnite these days, on what I believe to be reasonably fast computers. Still, they keep complaining about lag (when you die, it’s always because lag). The monitors are old ones that I picked up at Salvation Army about 5 years ago. Would upgrading the monitors have any affect on the lag complaints , or is it purely a CPU/video card issue?
Here are what I believe to be the pertinent facts about their computers:
CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever
> ttyymmnn
12/01/2018 at 14:39 |
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Too bad you don't live closer. I have a decent monitor I'd let go for free
MM54
> ttyymmnn
12/01/2018 at 14:39 |
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Do the thing to refresh the ‘experience index’ and it will tell you what the slowest thing is. I don’t know what ‘Fortnight’ is but is it online/multiplayer? If so, most of the lag is probably your internet connection / modem / router.
jimz
> ttyymmnn
12/01/2018 at 14:42 |
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LCD lag isn’t that bad anymore. however, a GT710 1 GB is fairly limp and is likely not going to be all that great at Fortnite.
the CPU is fast enough where an upgrade in graphics cards might still be worthwhile.
CB
> ttyymmnn
12/01/2018 at 14:42 |
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The monitor can have an effect, as if there’s a slow response time you can actually notice it if the game is high paced enough. However, the GT 710 is also not the greatest graphics card, there could be issues of other thing running in the background slowing it down, and your internet could always be an issue.
Tl;dr: there could be a number of reasons for lag. Or they might be bad at the game.
Montalvo
> ttyymmnn
12/01/2018 at 14:43 |
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Real lag is due to your connection to other servers or other peers. Having more frames makes everything look better and feel smoother though. Fortnite can basically run on a potato so see if they are experiencing any frame drops. Also probably no point in upgrading monitors if you are rocking a 7 series nvidia card. You wont see the dividends of a new card unless you upgrade the gpu. Check how your network is running too just to make sure there isnt any issues with your bandwidth.
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ttyymmnn
> CB
12/01/2018 at 14:43 |
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I did not spend a fortune on the card, and it’s a couple of years old.
Maxima Speed
> ttyymmnn
12/01/2018 at 14:44 |
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How is your network speed because thats far more likely to be a contributing factor.
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ttyymmnn
> Maxima Speed
12/01/2018 at 14:45 |
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Couldn’t tell you about network speed. It’s fine for me, but all I do is Oppo. Their computers are hooked to the router by cable, not over the air.
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ttyymmnn
> Montalvo
12/01/2018 at 14:48 |
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Also probably no point in upgrading monitors if you are rocking a 7 series nvidia card. You wont see the dividends of a new card unless you upgrade the gnu
So what you are saying is that I should upgrade the graphics card if I’m upgrading the monitors. But I am not necessarily upgrading the monitors, only if it will help. What if I only upgrade the graphics card?
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Maxima Speed
> ttyymmnn
12/01/2018 at 14:57 |
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Ok go to google search and type in “internet speed test” click the blue button that says “ run speed test” . Screenshot it an post it or just tell me latency, along with upload and download speeds.
RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars
> ttyymmnn
12/01/2018 at 14:58 |
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Monitors would make no difference, video card might, but just bump the graphics settings down a notch and see if that helps...if it does and they complain the ‘lag’ isn’t as bad, a video card upgrade could help.
Most lag is connection though, i.e. your internet upload and download speeds.
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ttyymmnn
> Maxima Speed
12/01/2018 at 15:06 |
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Not sure how to check latency.
Full of the sound of the Gran Fury, signifying nothing.
> ttyymmnn
12/01/2018 at 15:17 |
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I’ll go with the consensus and say that they monitors won't make a big deal, but a decent video card should. It doesn't even have to be anything recent, just better than what you have. I used a system with similar specs for years, and the upgrade from a GT 710 to something like a GTX 670 (about $50-60 on Craigslist or similar) should do the trick.
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Maxima Speed
> ttyymmnn
12/01/2018 at 15:28 |
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L atency is your ping. Thats plenty low which is good. You have plenty of upload and download speed. So your network is almost definitely not an issue.
I just checked the hardware requirements and the recommended requirements and it looks like the the card is close to the minimum of what can run the game. I would say its either the card or they need to get better at the game. The other thing is that often times in pvp games network connection issues on the other players side can create issues that resemble lag. I would recommend watching them play. If there is an obvious issue with delays and lag (ie. visible frame rate drop, jerky movement, or other players who don’t move smoothly, then its probably hardware related .
If its not visible to you as an outsider it might be time for them to look into fortnite training youtube videos so they can really learn how to out think and outperform the competition. Remember that there are a large number of adults playing fortnite now and generally reaction speeds, twitch skills, and critical thinking aren’t going to really start peaking until later teenage years.
Hopefully that will help a little.
gettingoldercarguy
> ttyymmnn
12/01/2018 at 15:30 |
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Bingo, this may really hold back teor gaming success W hat do their frames per second drop down to during combat? I feel the vid card may hold them up. I’ve never played fortnite , but as is in any other pvp game, superior frames per second is a huge boost.
Spamfeller Loves Nazi Clicks
> ttyymmnn
12/01/2018 at 15:31 |
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Your kids are being what we in the business call “whiny bitches.”
Based on what you’ve provided? No. It’s not lag.
Could they use an upgrade? Arguably. But it ain’t lag, they just ain’t that good .
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ttyymmnn
> Maxima Speed
12/01/2018 at 15:31 |
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That helps a lot, thanks. As for Fortnite videos, they watch them constantly. When they’re not playing, they’re watching FN videos. Whether or not they are training videos, I don’t know.
Tareim - V8 powered
> ttyymmnn
12/01/2018 at 15:33 |
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20ms is the latency and that’s pretty good
It might be the graphics turned up too high for your computer specs, try turning everything to low and see what happens
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ttyymmnn
> Tareim - V8 powered
12/01/2018 at 15:35 |
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I think we already have, but others are saying that the video card is pretty weak. Maybe Santa will bring them a new one.
Jayvincent
> ttyymmnn
12/01/2018 at 15:42 |
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DC3 LS, Fuck Hyundai, now and forever
> ttyymmnn
12/01/2018 at 15:43 |
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The pings not bad. First, if the computer is connected to wifi, I connect via ethernet, that will make a world of difference for an unstable connection (assuming it is).
Unless it’s a 30Hz monitors (which it almost certainly isn’t) then there’s basically no way the monitor is the issue.
Although I think it’s your GPU, here’s video of a guy trying to get fortnite to play on a 710. I’d see about upgrading to something like a gt 1030 (make sure to get a DDR5 model!) that’s only about $80.
Edit: I really think it’d be worth it to upgrade to the 1030, it’ll run other games like Rocket league, LOL, or world of tanks and other “e-sports” games they may get into later.
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ttyymmnn
> DC3 LS, Fuck Hyundai, now and forever
12/01/2018 at 15:45 |
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The computers are connected via ethernet. Thanks for the tip. I’ll search out a better card.
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Maxima Speed
> ttyymmnn
12/01/2018 at 15:46 |
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The important thing is watching someone who is explaining how to think. Just watching gameplay will not help. I don’t play Fortnite but I used be very heavily invested in Destiny PvP. The key is to always be learning and analyzing. My personal recommendation is for them to watch TrueVanguard. His stuff is not only family appropriate (no language or anything objectionable), he is the IMO the best person on youtube for learning how to play games. He has a large amount of destiny content which may have some application (not sure) but he does have a 13 videos about fortnite. Ive never watched his fortnite content but h is stuff took me from sub- par destiny player up to consistently top scoring player. If they study his videos it will make a difference, no doubt in my mind.
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Jayvincent
> ttyymmnn
12/01/2018 at 15:53 |
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That is really a marginal connection for online shooter games. My kids yelled about “pin g” and “lag” until I called my internet provider. You should call , at least to find out if you are getting the speed you are paying for: your download speed tested at 29Mbps, which typically means a 30Mbps contract, but if you are paying for 50Mbps or 100Mbps and testing at 29Mbps, there’s a problem. Ping below 20 is OK, a ping below 10 is excellent. You may also be able to upgrade to a 50, 75 or 100Mbps service for a small upcharge, so it’s worth the 10 minutes on hold to find out.
I forgot to mention - make sure you check the speed on your kids computer, too. They may not be getting the same internet speed you are, depending on how they are connected to the internet provider.
My kids don’t complain anymore, even with multiple simultaneous internet games and video streaming:
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Montalvo
> ttyymmnn
12/01/2018 at 16:00 |
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If you only upgrade the graphics card you will get increased pe rformance and you would be able to play more demanding games. However you probably wont actually be able to zee the increased frames you are now getting. Normally monitors are capped at 30,60,120, 144hz. So for example, say your card now caps your frames at 60 like your monitor. If you upgraded the gpu which now pushes it to 100+ fps your 60hz monitor would only be able to show the same number of frames. If you got a new monitor ( higher refresh rate) to accompany it then you would be able to see the additional frames.
boxrocket
> ttyymmnn
12/01/2018 at 16:38 |
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Echoing what others are saying. Make sure to have a very good internet connection (fiber’s my preference). Add more RAM (never hurts to have more) from a quality manufacturer. Use an SSD for the drive the game is on and one for the Windows install drive. Upgrade your video card every 3-4 years. They might appreciate monitors
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th a 120Hz or greater refresh rate and a low response time.
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gettingoldercarguy
> Spamfeller Loves Nazi Clicks
12/01/2018 at 16:51 |
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Heh, are you following rule number one?
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Spamfeller Loves Nazi Clicks
> gettingoldercarguy
12/01/2018 at 17:20 |
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I play Fortnite, so, yeah.
Supposedly there is a top 10 but damned if I’ve ever seen it.
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gettingoldercarguy
> Spamfeller Loves Nazi Clicks
12/01/2018 at 17:30 |
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https://oppositelock.kinja.com/tag/rules-of-the-road
Dogsatemypants
> ttyymmnn
12/01/2018 at 17:40 |
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Lag may have a bit to do with the machine but the big issue is bandwidth and your ping rate. You can reduce lag with a direct wited connection to the modem
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Spamfeller Loves Nazi Clicks
> gettingoldercarguy
12/01/2018 at 22:20 |
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http://whatculture.com/gaming/10-lame-excuses-people-make-for-sucking-at-video-games
Well, except 1. Some of us do have more important things to worry about than sucking at games. Since those things allow us to afford games.
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gettingoldercarguy
> Spamfeller Loves Nazi Clicks
12/01/2018 at 23:06 |
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I get it, you don't have kids do you?
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Spamfeller Loves Nazi Clicks
> gettingoldercarguy
12/02/2018 at 00:04 |
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I have kids!
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gettingoldercarguy
> Spamfeller Loves Nazi Clicks
12/02/2018 at 00:11 |
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I love furry friends, but when you have your own actual children you’ll understand this: I nsulting somebody else’s children is incredibly poor form.
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Spamfeller Loves Nazi Clicks
> gettingoldercarguy
12/02/2018 at 00:15 |
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Ah, I see your problem.
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gettingoldercarguy
> Spamfeller Loves Nazi Clicks
12/02/2018 at 00:21 |
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Coolio, thanks. Is fortnite that easy on hardware? I've always noticed massive changes in my kdr going between laptop and my hero rig on a the few games I play.
NYankee1927
> Spamfeller Loves Nazi Clicks
12/02/2018 at 13:28 |
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Haven’t played fortnight but do enjoy COD. I have to say sometimes it is lag. I know I am a shit player. I’ll average around .75 K/D ratio. Pretty consistent. But some games it is like I don’t even see guys before I get killed. Those games I’ll go easily 15-45. Other games it’s the other way around. I’ll be making shots I have no business marking and it’s like people aren’t even shooting at me. It is this inconsistency that is really annoying. Based on matchmaking, the people I’m playing against are usually around the same level.
So I do think lag can be an excuse, but if it’s lag when you suck and skill when you are good, then I’ve got bad news.
Longtime Lurker
> DC3 LS, Fuck Hyundai, now and forever
12/06/2018 at 01:41 |
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I want to say thanks for posting this. His video for Destiny 2 had the last settings I needed to play, stabile on my GTX 650 ti.